Nah, Vig's too expensive. How 'bout these (note that Lou G. did Sugar's
Beaster which was completely different from Ring, very dark):

Chopper Black (Nova Mob)
Chris Kimsey (Soul Asylum's Candy From A Stranger)
Cliff Norrell (Paw's Death To Traitors)
Bob Mould (Bob Mould, Sugar, Hüsker Dü, Soul Asylum)
Rick Parashar (Blind Melon)
Alan Moulder (Swervedriver)

does anyone agree with one of these?

Let me know,
Dion