Wow,

So, If you don't agree with  "its getting to see the bird above all
else" you are
told you should consider leaving?  Absolutely not.
Cynthia please don't leave this group or think that this is what
everyone on here thinks.
I can assure you,  I and others you will probably receive emails from
privately, want you on this list
and hope you feel free to voice your ideas about birds and bird watching
freely.

The birding community (and farmers, and Amish, name your group) is just
a mix of people, people of all types and attitudes.  All groups have their
share of saints and sinners and everything inbetween.  We all have
different opinions about what loving birds comes down to.  Those
opinions are all different and sometimes
even different in words and action.  I've become increasingly aware over
many years of bird watching that 'the birding community', whatever that is,
  is not some homogeneous block of like minded people who put birds
above all else.
  I haven't actually felt  like part of the "birding" community in some
time and am not concerned about it either.
My Dad taught me two things, 'watch what people do, not what they say'
and 'only you can be responsible for and hold on to your integrity'.

In no way am I saying don't share, but you can share with some caution
and limitations to ensure the bird isn't
impacted by people any more than they already are.  And if sharing can't
be done without impacting the bird there shouldn't be any guilt
about not sharing.  Hikers have Leave no footprints, Physicians Do no
harm.  Do birders need a motto?

What is wrong with setting up some viewing times?  Bringing people
out in small groups?  Not using calls?  Why is it such a crises for
people to not see the bird?
You travel, you take your chances.  If you want a guarantee go to a zoo.
It doesn't matter whether or not the bird is breeding, or is going to
move on.  It has a right to migrate, eat, rest up in
some peace.  Isn't it bad enough we've taken away so much of their
habitat and put up so many obstacles
to migration?  How about we not add insult to injury!?
Who wouldn't feel better about the situation and themselves if they went
hoping to see the bird but didn't
because it was not being harassed?  And the elation that comes when
patience and luck shows you the bird
in its own time, living its life as it should be allowed to?

I feel like those boys doing the tours got a real bad example of how to
treat birds.


Marie,  Fairborn


On 6/15/2014 12:02 AM, OHIO-BIRDS automatic digest system wrote:
> Date:    Sat, 14 Jun 2014 21:45:27 -0400
> From:    Wes Hatch<[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [Ohio-birds] Some Thoughts On Rural Birding Rarities
>
> Cynthia,=20
>
> They either cut the entire patch or let the patch alone. Eventually the bird=
>   is going to migrate as they don't breed here. They might as well let as man=
> y people either see or here this very secretive bird so they don't have to d=
> isrupt the others on there breeding grounds. These farmers are special in th=
> at they are willing to share there rarities with the locals. This family is h=
> osting people from around the state and out of the state to see this bird, j=
> ust like their friends in the past have done for other rarities.
If you don'= t believe in the sharing of birds you shouldn't be a part
of this list serve= . Wes Hatch Sent from my iPhone

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