I agree!!! We want to encourage interest in birds and be helpful to those
who take an interest. The more people who care about birds, the more voices
we will have in support of protecting the environments they need in
migrating and in nesting and we need to enjoy them. Also "ordinary" birds
are not always that ordinary for some birders and for some areas -- ospreys
are certainly exciting for those of us who see them less often than other
birds.
Harriet Alger
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From: "Tracey Knierim" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Tom Slater - New Member
> Wow! I just read Tom's E-mails and I have to put in my two cents! Tom -
> Please come back!!!!!
>
> I have been a member for over a year now. I have had people warn me that
> some of the members here might get nasty with me over the content of my
> e-mails. I can say that I have had a few heated discussion off list - and
> possibly a few e-mails that have a relatively negative tone. But most of
> my
> e-mails have been met with excitement and gratitude. I realize that I
> list
> things occasionally that are not directly related to birds (eg: frogs,
> butterflies, bats...) but my philosophy is that if you are interested in
> birds you should be interested in the things around birds and in my
> experience, most (if not all) the people I know are interested in more
> than
> just birds. I also realize that some would not be interested in my "off
> bird topics" so I title my subject so they can delete my e-mail without
> reading it.
>
> I have seen people here list sightings like a robin, blue jay, or some
> other
> common bird to an advanced bird watcher. Those people probably get weird
> responses too. But we should be thankful that they are interested, they
> notice them, and that they reported them. Do I care if there is a
> chickadee
> in Dayton? Yes and no... I'm not going to drive 7 hours to see it... but
> I'm glad they were able to see it. Once I got a nasty gram from someone
> who
> thought it was inappropriate for me to list that I saw an osprey - because
> it wasn't "rare". My view is that this is not a rare bird listing sight
> and
> even if it was, a bird rare to one person might be common to another...
> who
> are we to judge ----unless you are going to set strict guide lines!!!
>
> I do not have a problem with anything Tom wrote and quite frankly I think
> he
> was very appropriate. The only thing I think I might have done differently
> was to respond to an e-mail "off-list" - but he even apologized for doing
> that. He's new and is still learning our system...but even his response
> was
> not "wrong". I can not find anything inappropriate about his e-mails!!!
> I
> was excited that he was sharing his experiences of his land with us... if
> we
> had not criticized him to the point that he left us...we might have
> received
> and invitation to visit his property and possibly discover great things on
> it! Shame on us for making him not feel welcome. (although from the
> e-mails
> I have read since he left - we, or at least a lot of us, do welcome him!)
>
> I did not understand that this service was to just list birds we see at a
> specific time and place or to just list rare birds that have been seen. I
> thought this was a place for bird lovers to exchange information. Whether
> that is a workshop, a bird feeder design, a new trail to explore, a new
> book, an identification problem.....whatever... with birds as a common
> ground.
>
> I'm sorry - but I personally feel that who ever chastised Tom was out of
> line and just looking for someone to dump on. If I'm wrong about this
> service and it is only meant as a sterile place to keep bird counts from
> around Ohio - please let me know and I will unsubscribe with Tom.
>
> Tom - you can e-mail me anytime!!! Sounds like you have a nature goldmine
> out there!!!!!!
>
> Tracey Knierim
> Auburn twp - Geauga County
>
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