I was at the site for a little over an hour, from 11:30 am yesterday, and I
heard the bird call at least eight times. Several other birders were present
for parts of that time. All heard the calls, and no one used any tape while
I was there.
Gene Stauffer
Grove City
-----Original Message-----
From: Ohio birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Marie
Schatz
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:09 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] black rail seen but not by me - tapes
Its my understand that these lists are a combination of birding
enthusiasts "just" sharing sightings as well as information that is used
to support a larger purpose of scientific study, to help enhance
statistical data, and information used to get a general sense of "how
things are going"
for the birds.
I think from a conservation stand point it would be good to note when
something heard
is in response to tapes. It would also be good to note to the list
when anyone is out looking or listening for a bird
and sees others using tapes.
Personally I think tapes can be disruptive. Birds need to be
feeding, finding mates and nesting, not getting all wound up and
distracted, using
valuable energy and time by the repeated calls of tapes.
Others disagree. Many with a "oh its fine, it doesn't hurt
anything" Convenient but neither point can be proven.
With the constant push to make "Birding" a bigger and more populated
pastime and hence more people chasing birds, larger urban areas,
smaller natural areas I think we all agree that many birds are under
pressure.
It needs to be reported if more people equal more people playing
tapes and
becoming additional pressure (whether anyone agrees or not it is
pressure now).
Marie, Fairborn OH
On Jun 1, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Joe Faulkner wrote:
> yes, and it worked.
>
> joe
>
> On 6/1/08, Marie Schatz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Were you guys using tapes?
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2008, at 9:57 PM, Joe Faulkner wrote:
>
> Fellow birders,
>
> Linda Helm, Vicki Derr and I decided to chase the Black Rail at
> Charlie's Pond today. If hearing is any measure, we had great
> success,
> hearing the bird(s) six or seven times, from both sides of the
> road, around
> 5:00 PM. In my opinion, there were at least two. Several times we
> were
> within 6-8 feet of this bird, as it called to us, but yet we could
> not see
> it. None the less, it was still a life bird for all three of us,
> and while
> not seen, it was heard so clearly and so often, there was no
> mistaking it
> for anything else. Another birder actually did see the bird just
> before we
> arrived, but I will not steal his thunder. Let him tell you.
>
> Thanks to Paul Gardner for the timely post about this
> sighting. A lot
> more people know about Charlie's Pond, and a lot of people got a
> life bird,
> thanks to the internet. I can still remember dialing 221- WREN to
> hear Tom
> Thompson tell us where the birds were.
>
> Joe in the woods
> Somerset, Ohio
> Perry County
>
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