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Renee Tressler <[log in to unmask]>
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[log in to unmask][log in to unmask], 22 Jun 2009 12:39:35 -0400356_us-ascii Had a new variety of OBBA observation on Sunday - my husband saw a baby
Red-eyed Vireo in the beak of a Blue Jay. The parents were not happy. Not
the most pleasant way to confirm Red-eyed Vireo, but every species counts.
Unfortunately, he was unable to follow the Blue Jay to a nest of its own to
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Thanks for all of your rapid responces.

 

Appologise for not changing the subjiect line............ Hope to figure out the technical features of this blackerry soon. 



In any event, the place was so close it is embarrasing to have not seen it.



Found it now! 



Renee





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-----Original Message-----

From: [log in to unmask]



Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:13:16 

To: Steve<[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: Upland Sandpipers-Mansfield Lahm Airport





Ugh.



Who is online that lives anywhere near Jackson Bog in Stark county?



Have been circling for untold hours and both the locals and my "new" Delorme fail me. Of course it could be me, however hope to find it by sunset.



thatsanoddduck gmail com



 

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-----Original Message-----

From: Steve <[log in to unmask]>



Date:         Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:44:38 

To: <[log in to unmask]>

Subject: Re: Upland Sandpipers-Mansfield Lahm Airport





To All,



Remember this is the same problem that we had with the Bluebird up in Toledo

and for that matter the Black Neck Stilts here in Marion.  And to some

degree..the wood storks out east.



I want to offer some observations that might help the situations in the

future.:



If you lived in a neighborhood for at least five or six years, you would

(hopefully) know at least what everyone on that street looked like.  You see

them every day, you see what cars the drive, you know that, that weird woman

at the top of the hill above you, is just a bird watcher and not a lunatic

using her Binocs to spy on you......I hope... :-)



Now knowing that you know at least what is stated above...What would you

think if you saw an individual or group of individuals that you had never

seen before and didn't know were going to be in the area, were leaning

against a lamp post or street sign or in a car parked on the side of the

road...maybe with binocs, or a camera that has a big honkin lens on it...or

people using SCOPES that looked a lot like what spotters use...wouldn't you

start feeling just a little nervous?  You might say.."They aren't from

around here.  What are they doing here?  I bet he/she's a

detective/ex-lover/mafia hit man/drug dealer/TERRORIST.   Who or what  is

he/she spying on?"



The Police and National Guard are PAID to be nervous.  That IS my tax

dollars at work. If someone or a group of someones that are different is in

the area, it is their job to make sure that they are not terrorist or spies.

Especially when billions of dollars of equipment are possibly being

transported in equally expensive C-130s.  They treat all threats equally.

I'm sure that if the bird was on Nat. Guard land, and you were parked on the

road next to a nondescript fence, you would not have gotten a visit from the

local sheriff with their 9mm hand gun.  It would have been a more impressive

"gentleman/woman" with an equally impressive two handed weapon with the

initials M-16.



When a rare bird has been spotted on private property, don't you go and talk

to the land owner, explain the importance of the bird, and get their

permission to park in their driveway or walk back to their pond.  And then

get permission for others to go back?



Where I work, (a big gray building out in East Liberty area) there area a

lot of overhead power lines that have to be inspected semi annually.  The

power company, even though they own the towers and the lines and the right

of way to the land STILL lets us know that they will be flying around in a

maroon helicopter.  It's courtesy...plus it saves a lot of headaches to the

local police getting calls of a helicopter flying erratically around power

lines.



If you know the bird is rare and you know that others will want to see

it...especially if it is near an airport/train station/manufacturing

plant/whatever...at the very least let them know what is going on.  They

will be able to let you know the peculiarities of the area like a base or

such, and they might say.."you might want to stay away on  such and such

day, the area is going to be...busy."



 If I ever spot a rare bird, and knew that others might want to see it, I

would call the sheriff/city police/OHP to give them a heads up that there

might be more traffic in an area. It may not be "required", but it is the

right thing to do.  AND 9 times out of 10, all you will need to do is make

sure that your car is off of the road and not cause a disturbance.



Courtesy, (and doing unto others) it goes a long way.



Steve



----- Original Message -----

From: "Cheryl Harner" <[log in to unmask]>

To: <[log in to unmask]>

Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:46 PM

Subject: [Ohio-birds] Upland Sandpipers-Mansfield Lahm Airport





> Hi All-

>  I did speak with the Mansfield airport management today.  They were not

> aware of the weekend incidents, but did ask, "Were the C-130's flying?"

>

> I don't know a C-130 from a B-52, but I have been assured they are easier

> to

> sort than sandpipers.  Yes, this is an active Air National Guard field and

> they should be vigilant.

>

> So, please be patient, and we will try to work towards a resolution.  And

> if

> you happen to be in the Flyboys coffee shop, order pie too!

>

> Cheryl Harner

> Greater Mohican Audubon Society

> www.gmasohio.org

> Richland County

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Leidy Gabe" <[log in to unmask]>

> To: <[log in to unmask]>

> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 4:06 PM

> Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Upland Sandpipers-Mansfield Lahm Airport

>

>

> Hey all -

>

> I was also given the shakedown by police here, Sat. morning.  I told them

> I

> was 'atlasing' - the first thing that poppped in my brain, perhaps from

> similar experiences while atlasing.  The officer had a very difficult time

> believing that 'my story' about birdwatching, and even inspected my

> binoculars.  He asked several times if there was someone he could call to

> verify my story, but I figured you wouldn't appreciate an early AM call

> from

> Mansfield Police Department, Aaron!  He ended up telling to 'get out' and

> bring proof of what I'm doing, if I return.

>

> There's a Army base right by the Uppie spot, and he told me that there

> were

> guards watching me with binoculars from the tower, and that they had

> called

> the police.

>

> Sure was worth it to see Uppies again, though...they certainly are a rare

> commodity in our state these days.

>

> - Gabe Leidy

> Cleveland

>

>

> --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Leidy Gabe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>> From: Leidy Gabe <[log in to unmask]>

>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Upland Sandpipers-Mansfield Lahm Airport

>> To: "Laura Keene" <[log in to unmask]>

>> Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 4:05 PM

>> Hey all -

>>

>> I was also given the shakedown by police here, Sat.

>> morning. I told them I was 'atlasing' - the first

>> thing that poppped in my brain, perhaps from similar

>> experiences while atlasing. The officer had a very

>> difficult time believing that 'my story' about birdwatching,

>> and even inspected my binoculars. He asked several

>> times if there was someone he could call to verify my story,

>> but I figured you wouldn't appreciate an early AM call from

>> Mansfield Police Department, Aaron! He ended up

>> telling to 'get out' and bring proof of what I'm doing, if I

>> return.

>>

>> There's a Army base right by the Uppie spot, and he told me

>> that there were guards watching me with binoculars from the

>> tower, and that they had called the police.

>>

>> Sure was worth it to see Uppies again, though...they

>> certainly are a rare commodity in our state these days.

>>

>> - Gabe Leidy

>> Cleveland

>>

>> --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Laura Keene <[log in to unmask]>

>> wrote:

>>

>> > From: Laura Keene <[log in to unmask]>

>> > Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Upland Sandpipers-Mansfield

>> Lahm Airport

>> > To: [log in to unmask]

>> > Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 12:40 AM

>> > Thanks for reporting! I stopped by

>> > the Mansfield Airport at 6:30 this

>> > evening and found three of the Upland Sandpipers in

>> the

>> > grassy area right

>> > next to the public parking lot at about 9 o'clock on

>> the

>> > loop.

>> > http://tinyurl.com/kpv6dj

>> >

>> > Does this make me an official birder? - As I was

>> leaving

>> > town and

>> > approaching the highway, I was suddenly pulled over

>> by

>> > THREE police cars,

>> > and the officers approached on both sides of my car

>> with

>> > hands on their

>> > weapons. I was reported for "suspicious activity" at

>> the

>> > airport! The

>> > airport had appeared closed, with only a couple of

>> other

>> > cars in the PUBLIC

>> > parking lot, neither of which had occupants with

>> binoculars

>> > which I thought

>> > odd. The officers were skeptical of my explanation of

>> > photographing the rare

>> > birds from my car window, despite my Ohio WARBLR

>> plates and

>> > two birding

>> > bumper stickers. They didn't seem impressed with the

>> > pictures on my camera,

>> > either.

>> >

>> > Even though it is totally legal to be in this public

>> > parking lot, the

>> > officers recommend that future birders touch base

>> with

>> > someone at the

>> > National Guard office to let them know you are looking

>> for

>> > the sandpipers. I

>> > wish I could point you to the office, I missed it

>> > completely.

>> >

>> > I'm spending the next couple of days in Northern Ohio

>> with

>> > my grandbabies

>> > and try and stay out of trouble!

>> >

>> > Laura Keene (with a red face)

>> > Mason, OH

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > -----Original Message-----

>> > From: [log in to unmask]

>> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

>> > On Behalf Of [log in to unmask]

>> > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:13 PM

>> > To: [log in to unmask]

>> > Subject: Upland Sandpipers-Mansfield Lahm Airport

>> >

>> > Hello!

>> >

>> > I just returned home from the Mansfield Lahm Airport

>> where

>> > I observed 7

>> > Upland Sandpipers at the same time in the grassy area

>> > between the control

>> > tower and an airport ("Flyboys") restaurant, and on

>> > the adjacent runways.

>> > To

>> > get to this airport, follow Rte. 13 north out of

>> > Mansfield and turn left on

>> > Harrington Memorial Road (where the state prison is on

>> the

>> > right side of

>> > Rte. 13). Follow Harrington Road until you can

>> > go no further and the road

>> > loops around. Park in a lot at about 11 o'clock of

>> > the loop, and look

>> > through the chain-linked fence into the grassy area

>> and

>> > along the runways

>> > near

>> > that area. Five of the Uplands were in the grassy

>> > area and the remaining

>> > two were standing in the adjacent runways. I heard

>> > vocalizations a couple

>> > of

>> > times in the 15 minutes that I was there.

>> >

>> > Rob Lowry

>> > Powell, Ohio

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