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Hi Folks,

Thank you all for your help. Sorry for maybe abusing this data gathering email but I really needed help from a number of youall.  Now I have 3 neighbor kids also learning to do birding!!

While I really like the new binoculars (nikon 10X50's) the 10X still causes me some problems in not being close enough for longer distance views.

However, I cannot hold 15X binocs still enough and they are too heavy, so I just purchased a cheap Monocular Zoom 10X-30X on Amazon.  It might be a Brunton.

I think if I take my left arm and put it under my right elbow (aka similar the Tai Chi Position Fist Under Elbow) and hold real still I can use the Monocular.

Now whether I can quickly do this while walking along and suddenly spotting a bird that I want to spot is another story!!

sincerely, cheers, judojoe

Joe D Phillips
OOS newbie birder
Pataskala & Columbus

---- Joe Phillips <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> Thank you very much for sharing your side by side survey of these binocs.
>
> After reviewing this thread, and all the very helpful inputs - thanks to all, I decided to purchase the Chinese plastic Nikon 10 x 40 Action 7266 probably simply because I could do most of what I want to do and they only cost me $68 with free shipping on Amazon.com.
>
> However, for the long term I am very interested in what will be my next set of binocs.  I have looked a lot at the Vortex website and the Eagle website.  I am very pleased that you took the time to share with us that you decided on Vortex and why.
>
> PS:  My current frustration is trying to get my nearsightedness, my trifocals, my digital camera and my new binoculars to all work in unison and in succession!!! LOL, LOL, LOL!!!
>
> I really think my next purchase has to be a camera / binoculars combination.  Does Vortex make such a thing?
>
> Does anyone have experience with a camera binoculars combination?  Trying to use a dedicated camera as a binoculars is really really cumbersome!!
>
> Mostly I want to just go back and forth from eyes to binoculars, and then at the almost rare perfect moment, snap!! and I have a picture!!!
>
> thank you for this thread,
>
> joe d phillips
> birder newbie
> pataskala & columbus
>
> ---- Matt Valencic <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > After 4 nights on the road I returned home this afternoon through
> > Millersburg and stopped at Time and Optics to talk with Robert Hershberger
> > and his mother (who started the shop many years ago).  I looked through
> > several models (Vortex, Nikon, Eagle & Leupold) and power combinations
> > (8x42, 10x42, 8.5x43).  My max price was ~$500.  The ones that impressed me
> > most were the 8x42 Vortex Viper ($529) and a pair of 8x42 Leupold ($409) - I
> > did not notice the model because I did not even consider them in my research
> > - might have been Pinnacles.
> >
> >
> >
> > I was fortunate that the afternoon was dreary and rainy because without the
> > limited light I could have been happy with either one.  The Leupold felt
> > lighter but it could just have been the design.  Both had a similar field of
> > view when I compared them against a distant fence line.  However, when I
> > really focused on some lichen attached to a fence post about 20 yards away
> > it was obvious to me that the Vortex Viper was brighter and gave more detail
> > of my 'target'.  I went back-and-forth many times until I was convinced.
> > Robert finally became non-committal and agreed that I had observed
> > correctly.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just for 'grins and giggles' I looked through a pair of Leica's ($1,800) and
> > Swarovski ($3,000).  Yes, they were both brighter but not $1,000 - $2,000
> > brighter to me (to someone else with the budget they probably  are!).
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyway, the icing on the cake is the incredible warranty from Vortex.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks to all who helped me make this decision.
> >
> >
> >
> > The take-away from all this . if you are going to spend more than $100 go
> > somewhere where you can compare side-by-side.  Then pray for a dreary day!
> > Robert said that if it were bright and sunny I would not have been able to
> > discern the difference between them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Matt Valencic
> >
> > Chagrin Falls, OH
> >
> >
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