I believe that the first Starling on the Hamilton-Fairfield CBC was
recorded in 1925. Mike Busam may know the exact year.
John Habig
261 Lantis Dr.
Carlisle, Ohio 45005
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From: Ohio birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Andy Sewell
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] More osprey nests, purple martins
It's highly unlikely that the 1831 sighting was of European Starlings,
as they were not successful introduced to North America until 1890.
Perhaps it was not the physical appearance of the birds that so offended
the author of the 1831 letter, but their association with Native
Americans, as it was all the rage in the nineteenth century to disparage
anything associated with Native Americans. Remember, at the time of the
letter writer, there were still Shawnee in Ohio and Indian conflicts
were still in living memory for some Ohioans! Perhaps in some distant
time, a researcher will come across our modern disdain for starlings and
House Sparrows, and scratch their head at our disgust for such handsome
birds...
Andy Sewell
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From: Ohio birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Al
La Sala
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] More osprey nests, purple martins
I can't imagine anyone cursing purple martins. Martins are beautiful
birds. Whoever wrote that article in an 1831 Columbus paper may have
seen European Starlings going in and out of improperly cared for martin
boxes.
---- Bill Whan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I've got expert confirmation of natural osprey nests in two more
> counties: Trumbull and Summit. Clearly, these birds are settling in
and
> 'branching out' on their own. As for purple martins, the following
> comments were included a letter to a local Columbus newspaper on
> 9/22/1831: "I certainly do not know of any other way in which so much
> additional beauty may be given to Columbus, as by merely taking down
all
> the martinboxes. The martin is a savage bird, beyond all question, and
> to retain him among us may justly be compared as a badge of barbarism,
> for we find that the Indians have always been fond of him." So there.
> Bill Whan
> Columbus
>
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