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In January we were on the ferry from Amherst Island to Kingston, Ontario and
observed a Great Black-backed Gull drown a Red-breasted Merganser.  In fact
they were so involved in the struggle that the ferry ran over top of them.
Astern they popped up with the Great Black-backed completing his task.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ohio birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe
Faulkner
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:36 AM
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Subject: Fwd: [Ohio-birds] Hawk drowns pigeon.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Joe Faulkner <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Hawk drowns pigeon.
To: Not Right <[log in to unmask]>


"Wow-I wonder if this is learned behavior or instinctive"

Sending emil reports about bird behavior is no doubt* learned*, but the
general desire to communicate with other human beings is probably *
instinctive*
*
*
joeinthe woods

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Not Right
<[log in to unmask]>wrote:

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> Wow-I wonder if this is learned behavior or instinctive
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> ________________________________
>  From: Alan Walter <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Hawk drowns pigeon.
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> I had a very similar experience a decade ago.  I posted the following 
> message to this listserv earlier this year but no one replied that 
> they'd witnessed similar behavior.  Thanks for posting your 
> observation because now I know that there has been at least 1 other
witness to this.  Thanks.
>
>
>
> In late April, 2003 I was outside at 8:30 PM which was just past dusk.  
> I
>
> heard a “screech, screech, screech” cry of terror coming through the 
> front
>
> yard and then saw a Coopers hawk with something in its talons flying 
> about
>
> 5’ off the ground.  It proceeded to fly down a stone path to a small,
>
> shallow pond that I own and settled on the path about 3’ from the pond 
> and
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> glowered.  It had a robin and the robin is what was screeching.  Even 
> as
>
> the hawk was sitting on the path, the screeching kept going.  After 
> about
>
> 5 seconds of that, the hawk lifted up off the ground and flew over the
>
> pond about 2’ from the edge (5’ from where it had first lit).
>
> It “hunched” it wings so they were only partially spread from its body.
>
> It had its tail flared and its legs fully extended below its body with 
> the
>
> robin in its right talons.  The hawk proceeded to let itself settle 
> down
>
> into the water until it sank deep enough that its wingtips were about 1”
>
> into the water and its tail was starting to touch the water.  The 
> robin
>
> quit squawking (since it was totally under water) and then the Coopers
>
> hawk flew back to the stone sidewalk and sat there and glowered for 
> about
>
> 10 seconds.  The robin was totally silent at that point.  Then the 
> hawk
>
> took off again and headed for my apple orchard where I’ve seen 
> evidence of
>
> past meals.  The robin started screeching again as the pair 
> disappeared
>
> into the twilight.
>
>
>
> SO the huge question is:  What was the hawk doing?!  Was it dunking 
> the
>
> bird to try to drown it?  Was it dunking it to try to make it easier 
> to
>
> pluck?  The hawk definitely had a methodical plan to its behavior and
>
> really acted like this was not the first time that it had performed 
> this
>
> maneuver!  Seeing that was the highlight my day, but I’d really like 
> to
>
> know what I witnessed!
>
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