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Please respect our list owner's call for no more discussion of hunting (See
Ned Keller's Post). The OOS forum offers opportunity to discuss
controversial subject matter in a respectful way. Please abstain from
references such as the one below here and in the Forum.

Tom Bain
OOS Bird Conservation

-----Original Message-----
From: Ohio birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve
Hughes
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 12:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] snowy owl habituation and hunting

That eye for an eye thing might work out pretty well. Let's see how many
owls that guy would kill if we cut off his feet with a lopper.
Steve Hughes

-----Original Message-----
From: Christina Voise
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 3:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] snowy owl habituation and hunting

I want to second Nancy's statement about snowy owls - that people will kill
one if they really want to whether it is habituated or not. And my
observation is that this applies to wildlife in general. Years ago I had an
acquaintance tell me about an old fellow who set baited leghold traps on the
tops of fenceposts to trap great horned owls that were killing his chickens.
I was told that once the owls were trapped, he cut the owls' feet off with
loppers. Of course the owls would then starve to death. I have also had
(so-called) hunters tell me that they would shoot mourning doves for "target
practice" back in the days before dove hunting was legal in Ohio. And I have
seen trappers leave animals to die in leghold traps - and then toss the body
aside without harvesting the pelt once they finally came to check the trap.
There seems to be no limit to how low humans can sink.
So I have a hard time condemning people who want to feed starving snowy
owls. If humans had not so altered the landscape south of the owls' normal
habitat, they might stand a better chance when they are forced to migrate
here. I do agree with Tom Bain that we must do all we can to conserve
habitat for wildlife. No amount of feeding will substitute for that. But I'm
not sure how we will ever weed out the folks who deliberately harm wild
animals.
Christina Voise
Delaware County


On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:16 PM, nancy ortman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I believe that if someone wants to kill a snowy owl, they will do it
> whether it is habituated or not. When I was a kid, I saw a boy kill a
> pure white snowy owl with his pellet gun in Columbiana county. It was
> warm weather, like early fall. The owl was not expected to be around
> then. I believe he is the only person who knew of it. I was a
> beautiful creature, and I thought it was such a shame. Hadn't seen one
> again until this year,
> 45 years later.
>
> Nancy Ortman
>
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