Sorry, I think this message got directed to Byron only. Apologies.
It would help if everybody would read and understand the ABA Code of Ethics, which specifically states not to disturb and reveal the location of owl nests. It would also serve as a reminder to those who insist on using recorded calls/pishing in a congested place such as the Magee Marsh boardwalk.
Bob, this is a listserv for all kinds of discussions. Your post is welcome and a good reminder to all.
Good birding,
Sameer Apte
On May 6, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Haans Petruschke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Yes it does and it would be different if people were consistent about it.
> But the inconsistency has been a running joke among some of us for years.
> 
> People are indeed mad for owls. An owl out in the open will have people
> coming out of the woodwork and going crazy.
> 
> BTW If you ever find an Owl at Holden it is okay to report it but don't say
> where.  The people in education take every school group to see it.  They
> did this with a Barred Owl nest a few years ago.  Owls are far more
> engaging than plants.
> 
> Haans
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Haans Petruschke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Since this thread is about not "harassing" birds, why does this sort of
>> thing only seem to come up when owls are involved?
>> 
>> Rhetorical question... Owls are special and different from other birds.
>> It is okay to get close to a taped off Woodcock nest in the parking lot of
>> the Magee boardwalk.  Or to hound a Varied Thrush, or....chum for gulls get
>> as close as you can to a duck or catch and band a 1st state record Calliope
>> Hummingbird (resulting it it dying) or... Whatever....
>> 
>> Just don't do it to an owl or an owl nest.
>> 
>> I know consistency is way to much to expect, and so think we should just
>> accept that people are mad for owls, and everyone has a different view of
>> how people should behave around these birds of myth and wisdom, not to
>> mention age.  There has been discussion ad nauseam about owls and behavior
>> around them in this forum.  Evidence presented supporting each position and
>> passionate argument.
>> 
>> I think we need to realize that most people engage in wildlife watching
>> and birding for their own reasons which are generally selfish and we need
>> to respect the judgement of the land owner or manager.  If USFWS was
>> worried about this nest they could rope it off, divert the tour, or
>> whatever.
>> 
>> Given access birders being birders will do what they do and if you don't
>> like it, have the courage to say something then and there.  Yes that is
>> potentially far more difficult and may cause a confrontation. But going on
>> in this safe and comfortable forum is not going to change anything .
>> 
>> Relax it's just an Owl. Think about the havoc if the owlets start moving
>> and even get out of the nest tree as they sometimes do.  Oh the horror...
>> 
>> Haans
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Paul Gardner <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Dave Watkins <[log in to unmask]>
>>> 
>>>     I think
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Dave Watkins <[log in to unmask]>
>>> 
>>>     I think the anti-photography thing needs to go the way of the feral
>>> cat and hunting discussions. ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is an "anti-photography" thread only if you accept that bird
>>> photography requires harassing birds. Otherwise it is an anti-harassment
>>> thread. How birders should deal with people who are observed harassing
>>> birds seems like an entirely appropriate topic for the list-serve.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Paul Gardner
>>> Columbus, OH
>>> 
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