DB--
        If you saw two Aplomado falcons clinging to a cage here in Ohio, that
might be one thing. But if you saw them in south Texas, it seems likely
they were part of decades-long program to reintroduce the species to
that area, and were hanging around hoping for a free meal--certainly a
sign they continue to rely on human assistance. If  interested in a list
via the existing ABA rules, most counters would insist on birds a lot
wilder than that. Some listers would probably not count any Aplomado
seen near the SE Texas introduction sites, because if the population
were really established they wouldn't still be hacking them. But if we
don't bother with rules such as the ABA's, we can have a real bonanza
down at the zoo...which leads me to wonder, no kidding: could anyone
recommend the best zoo in Ohio, with the most new ticks for the birder
who loves birds and counts everything??
Bill W

On 11/12/2015 8:24 AM, Douglas Bohanan wrote:
> The birds in question are Aplomado falcons.  I am not sure exactly
> what stage they were at in regards to the hacking.  They were both on
> the outside of the hacking cage clinging to the side.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:28 AM, Kathi Hutton
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Regarding the countability of hacked birds:
>>
>> http://listing.aba.org/aba-recording-rules/
>>
>> Rule 3 of the ABA's listing rules says the bird must be "alive,
>> wild, and unrestrained" to be counted.  In the definition of
>> "unrestrained," it states the bird must not be "held captive ... or
>> under the influence of such captivity."
>>
>> If a hacked bird is confined, or if it is being fed by humans and
>> is "under the influence" of captivity, my interpretation is that it
>> is not countable.
>>
>> I would be interested in other opinions.
>>
>> Kathi Hutton Clermont County
>>
>> Sent from iVan II, my iPhone
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