I apologize to all members about the direction one of my posts took. That was not my intention!!!! As I stated in my post, I do not want to get into the hunting vs non-hunting issue. I just thought that us birders would be interested in the current limits and if there was a way to take an active role in determining the limits we should know about it. I know I do bird counts that help determine the increase or decrease in a species and that the hunting limits could affect our numbers - but I was not saying that they should not be hunted. Please do not take that as a pro or con hunting comment!!!! It's just that I thought this was a topic of interest to us. Again, I apologize if my post offended anyone or went against the rules. I really did not think it would turn into a hunting vs non-hunting topic!!!! Please do not post more comments to this posting. I am just sending this to apologize! Let lying dogs, lay and just accept my apologies. Sincerely Tracey ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]