Do any of you know which program might be programmable into a Palm or Treo? The real power of these spreadsheet programs is that you could log your sightings in during a trip and then simply upload them into your computer. This kind of 'real-time' data collection could save time and prevent the kind of 'data inflation' that occurs when we try to remember a trip list after-the-fact. Rob > [Original Message] > From: Bob Powell <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Date: 12/4/2006 8:47:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Bird List Documentation help > > Bill Heck's run-down of the available software pretty much jibes with my > experience. I have used Bird Base and Avisys extensively and prefer the > latter. I am currently checking out the Woodstar Field Diary, which is a > free-form data base that offers the promise of much greater flexibility than > AviSys. You can download a crippled test version of Woodstar from > > http://www.tody-soft.com/ > > Another thing you might consider, particularly if you are just starting out > and don't have a great many records to process, is simply collecting your > records in a spreadsheet. Most spreadsheets these days can handle 64,000 > rows and the next version of MS Office is supposed to be able to handle > 1,000,000. Keeping your records in a flat file format is dreadfully > wasteful of memory, but we all have memory to burn these days. The > spreadsheet metaphor is easy to learn (MUCH easier than relational database > managers) and allow you to slice and dice the data just about anyway you > want. And you don't even have to enrich Microsoft if you don't want to. > The OpenOffice project offers a free office suite, including a very good > spreadsheet, under the open software license at > > http://www.openoffice.org/ > > The main thing, though, is to start keeping records, even if you just write > them down in one of those speckledy composition books we used to use in > school. > > Cheers, > > Bob > > > > On 12/4/06, Stephen Cunliffe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > I would like to add a specific request to Phillip's. I have never used > > software for listing in my very short career as a birder, but am > > interested > > in doing so. Coming to an end of my first year, and it would be > > interesting > > to tally things up. Any recommendations? I have a Mac, but I think I can > > run Windows programs on it > > Many thanks, > > Stephen > > > > On 12/4/06, Phillip North <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > As a relatively new birder and an avid reader of this site, I would > > like > > > some ideas/help on bird list documentation. > > > > > > I currently am keeping a lifelist and a yr list with bare bones > > > documentation of name date and place. I have not been in the habit of > > > doing a list each time I go out. What techniques/software/lists do you > > > more experienced birders keep and can you point me to some good > > resources. > > > My interet was sparked by the kestrel thread as I see Kestrels almost > > > everytime I go to Pickerington Ponds in SE Columbus. However, I have > > not > > > been keeping any longitudinal data and would like to start doing so. > > > > > > Thanks Phillip > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. > > > Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. > > > > > > You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: > > > http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS > > > Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. > > Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. > > > > You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: > > http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS > > Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] > > > > > > -- > Robert D Powell > Wilmington, OH, USA > [log in to unmask] > > Nulla dies sine linea > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. > Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. > > You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: > http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS > Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]