Both Wildlife Recorder and AviSys support the Palm; I guess both would support the Treo. Wildlife Recorder also supports the Pocket PC (the Windows-based handheld, e.g., Dell Axim or HP iPAQ). Palm support has been planned for Birders Diary, but it's not yet available. Bill Rob Thorn wrote: > Do any of you know which program might be programmable into a Palm or Treo? > The real power of these spreadsheet programs is that you could log your > sightings in during a trip and then simply upload them into your computer. > This kind of 'real-time' data collection could save time and prevent the > kind of 'data inflation' that occurs when we try to remember a trip list > after-the-fact. > > Rob > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Bob Powell <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Date: 12/4/2006 8:47:51 PM >> Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Bird List Documentation help >> >> Bill Heck's run-down of the available software pretty much jibes with my >> experience. I have used Bird Base and Avisys extensively and prefer the >> latter. I am currently checking out the Woodstar Field Diary, which is a >> free-form data base that offers the promise of much greater flexibility >> > than > >> AviSys. You can download a crippled test version of Woodstar from >> >> http://www.tody-soft.com/ >> >> Another thing you might consider, particularly if you are just starting >> > out > >> and don't have a great many records to process, is simply collecting your >> records in a spreadsheet. Most spreadsheets these days can handle 64,000 >> rows and the next version of MS Office is supposed to be able to handle >> 1,000,000. Keeping your records in a flat file format is dreadfully >> wasteful of memory, but we all have memory to burn these days. The >> spreadsheet metaphor is easy to learn (MUCH easier than relational >> > database > >> managers) and allow you to slice and dice the data just about anyway you >> want. And you don't even have to enrich Microsoft if you don't want to. >> The OpenOffice project offers a free office suite, including a very good >> spreadsheet, under the open software license at >> >> http://www.openoffice.org/ >> >> The main thing, though, is to start keeping records, even if you just >> > write > >> them down in one of those speckledy composition books we used to use in >> school. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> On 12/4/06, Stephen Cunliffe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> I would like to add a specific request to Phillip's. I have never used >>> software for listing in my very short career as a birder, but am >>> interested >>> in doing so. Coming to an end of my first year, and it would be >>> interesting >>> to tally things up. Any recommendations? I have a Mac, but I think I >>> > can > >>> run Windows programs on it >>> Many thanks, >>> Stephen >>> >>> On 12/4/06, Phillip North <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> As a relatively new birder and an avid reader of this site, I would >>>> >>> like >>> >>>> some ideas/help on bird list documentation. >>>> >>>> I currently am keeping a lifelist and a yr list with bare bones >>>> documentation of name date and place. I have not been in the habit of >>>> doing a list each time I go out. What techniques/software/lists do >>>> > you > >>>> more experienced birders keep and can you point me to some good >>>> >>> resources. >>> >>>> My interet was sparked by the kestrel thread as I see Kestrels almost >>>> everytime I go to Pickerington Ponds in SE Columbus. However, I have >>>> >>> not >>> >>>> been keeping any longitudinal data and would like to start doing so. >>>> >>>> Thanks Phillip >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. >>>> Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. >>>> >>>> You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: >>>> http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS >>>> Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] >>>> >>>> >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. >>> Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. >>> >>> You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: >>> http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS >>> Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Robert D Powell >> Wilmington, OH, USA >> [log in to unmask] >> >> Nulla dies sine linea >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. >> Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. >> >> You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: >> http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS >> Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] >> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. > Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. > > You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: > http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS > Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] > -- *Bill Heck* University Data Administrator Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Phone: (513) 529-5527 ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. 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