I was introduced to birding this past spring. I joined the mailing list about a month ago. As a beginner I have observed the following: 1. It would be very helpful if specific directions or locations are included with more of the sightings posted. I know this is mentioned in the guidelines already, but many posts do not include these details. Mentioning that the birds were seen "in the usual places" is not only vague, but it give the beginner the feeling that they are totally out of the loop. 2. I have been pleased with off-list responses to my inquiries about specific locations. 3. I find the clarifications and explanations offered by Kenn Kaufman and others to be informative and helpful. Some of the information is over my head, but I am becoming familiar with new terms and concepts. 4. Abbreviated bird names are DEFINITELY not helpful to the beginner. This is also mentioned in the guidelines. 5. At first I thought the guidelines about hunting, cats, etc, were restrictive but upon watching the latest hunting thread develop I now fully agree with that guideline. (No offense to those who posted in that thread.) 6. It would be nice to discuss how to attract birds, the merits of feeding, etc, but I feel as others that this would be better done in an easily searchable message board. 7. It is nice to hear about hotspots like Magee Marsh, etc, but I wonder how many birders are seeing birds on their daily drives and in out of the way places. The more posts about small wildlife management areas, parks, cemeteries or inland lakes would be helpful to the beginner who is not equipped to travel to a hotspot across the state just yet. Thanks to all who have posted. I have enjoyed being a silent observer and hope to post someday soon. Troy Gilmore ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]