Hi All, This morning Laura Stiefel and I had what was surely a Western Kingbird at Maumee Bay St Park (Oregon, OH). While driving east through the cabin area I spotted a medium-large, songbird with a long tail and dark back. It was perched on the tip of a tree just east of the boardwalk parking lot on the north side of the drive. The bird flushed while I was driving by and landed for just a second at the tip of another tree a little further east near cabin 12. The bird then flew north and landed a good distance away on the north side of a small pond. It perched facing us with an upright posture with the tail obscured in the brush. I was able to see a gray head, heavy bill and a yellow wash across the belly. I was considering Western Kingbird and Cassin's Kingbird at this time. Laura then asked if I had noticed the white outer tail feathers when the bird had flown between the two near trees. I had not, and will blame it on the fact that I was driving. At the time Laura commented on the tail feathers she was not aware that it was a field mark of either of the birds I was considering. Here is a quote from Laura: "Even after you mentioned your two possibilities I would have had to check a book to know if white outer tail feathers fit either bird." I think this is important in that it shows Laura as an unbiased observer of the field mark. The bird disappeared while I was parking and getting the camera out and could not be relocated over the next few hours. At the time of the close observation of the bird in flight it was slightly side lit, possibly causing the back to appear slightly darker than it was. When the bird was perched across the pond it was in perfect frontal lighting. I have observed Western Kingbird in several different locations in the sout hwest in the past few years, including point blank views at Pawnee Grasslands and in Fort Worth, TX in July of this year. Other birds of interest observed in the park today include 2- N. Harriers, a Rough-legged Hawk, 2-Brown Creepers, 5-Snow Buntings, a Greater White-fronted Goose and a handful of Swamp Sparrows. Hopefully some or all of the above birds will show themselves again for the Toledo CBC a week from today. Good Birding! BZ ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]