It seems to me that this Coffee posting addiction is a bit off topic. I'm pretty sure Bill Whan didn't intend to start this discussion here, but Hey , this sort of topic would be great to bring to the new Ohio birding Forum. I hope that all of us who do care about topics such as this can bring that to the new forum and discuss there at length without fear of annoying the people out there who read this listserver and really just want to know if the King Eider has been seen again. I'm sorry to seem like a "whistle blower" here I just thought this would be a great topic to get going on the other forum. Have a nice day and enjoy the birds. - Ben Warner ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]