Well, I have sent pics to several people more experienced than I, and it seems likey that the bird pointed out by Ed Schlabach at East 55th Street Marina in Cleveland on 12/28 WAS a Lesser Black-backed Gull. The salient points: it was dark-backed and smaller than the attendant Herring Gulls nearby, and not much else fits that description. If anyone would like the pics, please e-mail me off list and I'll send them along. Otherwise, I think I'm going to "count him". Good birding in the New Year, Scott H. Canton ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]