Many thanks to Paul for coming to look at this Gull. I am wrong I believe re it being a Glaucous Gull. But I think having seen it against GBHs and Egrets that it is just too large for a Ringbill. I think that it is probably a herring Gull with pale primaries. It is a stocky gull although that is not so apparent in the picture that Paul sent me. Thanks to the others that have tried to see the Gull and have emailed me privately. Gulls are difficult for me and I think others as well as they have so many variations in plumage. Thanks again Phillip north ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]