It's still too early to call any hummingbird "late." In "The Birds of Ohio," Bruce Peterjohn has this to say about the ruby-throated hummingbird in the state: "The last migrants usually depart by Oct 5-12, with few acceptable records during the last half of October. Sight records during November or December require verification..." For Ohioans interested in birds this book is essential, and it's a bargain. Here are late records for ruby-throats over the past five years: 2006: 3 November 2005: 14 October 2004: 24 October 2003: 3 November 2002: 30 November (this is the latest accepted date for this species in Ohio, when feeders in Columbus and Massillon were no longer useful for migrants in the face of some nasty weather.) In late fall and early winter every hummingbird should be looked at carefully; this is when rare western strays have appeared here. Bill Whan Editor, The Ohio Cardinal Columbus ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]