I found a juv male Red Crossbill today at Dike 14 in Cleveland. See a photo at http://www.rarebird.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2350&PID=6838#6838 I also had a very early junco in my yard September 13 through 19. Craig Rieker Parma, Oh ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]