I have an elastic harness thing but am hoping there are better ones out there than the one I have. It is quite confusing to get into and tends to twist. I think I have safety pins on parts that tend to slide. I am on the hefty and top heavy side if you think that might make a difference:) Anyone like theirs and want to share brands and where you got it? Thanks, Mary, near Dayton ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]