Some scattered early reports of cave swallows are being heard in the region, none yet from Lake Erie, but from Whitefish Point in MI and Long Point on Lk Ontario. There was also one very late cliff swallow seen 21 Oct, confusing the issue somewhat. There is some speculation that the monster low pressure system moving through now may assist some of these; no reports from the eastern seaboard, though. Working on our fourth inch of rain today, Bill Whan Columbus ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]