I was among the group that saw the Pine Grosbeak this morning around 11:45 am in Lucas County. From where I was standing, the bird appeared to be an immature male. The bird had pink on the head with a gray body, no yellow at all. So if others are seeing a definite female, there could be two birds. Lori Brumbaugh Cincinnati/Cleveland **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]