Thanks to all that offered help confirming the hawk that was not (of course!) a Snail Kite on Hayes Road in Amish country. My 24-year-old son & I went back 10 days later. As I was pointing to the very tree the bird sat on to my right, on my left was a very similar bird on the telephone wire. We shot pics, enhanced them for id purposes and could see that it was a rough-legged hawk. I learned that the rough-legged has a sharply downward curved bill as does the Snail Kite. I believe it was that brilliant sun that day shining right into that bird making me see (or want to see) a red eye, red bill and red legs. We continued to chase this other hawk Friday about 2:15 pm. We traveled down a long Amish driveway, then lost it, then turned around fast and found a gas well gravel road that headed toward the wood it flew toward. We spotted a red-tail off in the woods and he shot that as it was hunting. My son said, ``Man, Mom, this is exciting. Its like we're Scully & Mulder chasing aliens." I said, ``Son, this is the excitement of bird-watching!" Cindy Oravecz ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]