Yes, both Chickadees are Code 1 birds. I was giving an example on how one chickadee is common in one region but almost absent in another and still remained a Code 1. Sorry for the confusion. This has been a really interesting discussion and I really want to thank Paul Gardner, Dan Sanders, Greg Miller, Bill Whan and Joe Hammond for putting together the codes. Ethan Kistler Newton Falls, Ohio Andy Sewell <[log in to unmask]> wrote: I think that as a general statewide bird checklist, the difficulty codes are pretty accurate. Your own mileage may vary, but in general, I think the list is well reflective of the majority of birders' experiences in finding these birds. Bill Heck's point about the ease of seeing the bird on any given trip to where it regularly occurs is a good one. The code list did make me feel a little sheepish about not having a Code 1 bird on my state list, but that just made the bird my number one target for 2008. Regarding Ethan Kistler's example: Perhaps I am looking at the wrong checklist, but aren't both chickadees under code 1 in this system? Andy Sewell Columbus, Ohio ________________________________ This mailbox protected from junk email by MailFrontier Desktop from MailFrontier, Inc. http://info.mailfrontier.com -----Original Message----- From: Ohio birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ethan Kistler Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:08 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Checklists with Difficulty Codes Jay Stenger brought up a great point. Personally, I think we should code them the same way the ABA does; If it's common somewhere in the given region, mark it a Code 1. Black-capped VS Carolina Chickadees is a good example. Just because one chickadee is rare in a region of Ohio doesn't mean it should be considered rare statewide. Ethan Kistler Newton Falls, Ohio --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]