Well, the very experienced (EXPERT) birders have weighed in and the unanimous agreement is Dark Morph Broad Wing and supposedly very rare! Thanks to all of you for your help. For those who did not look at the pictures you can find them at http://picasaweb.google.com/mvalencic/UnknownHawk. Regards, Matt Valencic Chagrin Falls, OH ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]