This site is the area inside the large circular wall on the Lorain city lakefront just east of the Black River. Go north on one of the streets--Colorado for example--just east of the bridge on Rte 6 and go down to the marina. Walk in from the parking lot. The Corps of Engineers has dumped dredge spoil from the harbor into this spot for years. For many of those years this was a great shorebirding spot because mudflats predominated in the landscape, and gulls and terns also gathered here in great numbers. The willow thickets attracted passerines from warblers to redpolls seasonally. As the impoundment filled up, its hydrology changed, and phragmites took over. Because the soil inside is made up of gunk dredged from Ohio's most polluted stream, few people but birders saw much of a future in it, but over the past year a great deal of landscaping has been done to make pools and pathways on the site, and the birdlife has improved. It's possible this spot will regain some of its former luster as a site to see migratory birds. For a taste of what it used to be like, see the entries in this forum from ten years ago at http://aves.net/birdnews/past0898.htm ; more detailed directions are there (though some details are out of date). DeLorme 40:A-1; aim for the eastern of the two marina symbols. If shorebirds are returning there, someone deserves some commendation; I hope the folks in Lorain will keep us posted. Bill Whan Columbus ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]