Hey all, The area I and others in the past are calling the Lorain impoundment is located right on Lake Erie just east of Lorain City Hall behind the Lakeside Landing building near the Spizter Marina boat docks. If you are coming west on State Route 6 and get to the drawbridge over the Black River you have gone to far. If you are heading east on Route 6 the area is just north of Route 6 after you cross the drawbridge. Hope that helps. I don't know the Delorme coordinates. Matt Vosniak ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]