The gulls began moving around 8:30 this morning and were still moving around 5:00 tonight at my house in North Perry, Lake County. The number of gulls moving throughout the day remained remarkably constant. I occasionally counted how many were moving per minute and the number ranged from 23- 360. I figured throughout the day a good average would have been about 100 birds per minute, or about 6,000 birds an hour. Figuring they were moving from 8:30am-5:00pm that is about 9 1/2 hours and about 57,000 gulls. I think that number may be low as there were times that I wasn't counting that several hundred birds were going by per minute. I did not make any counts as I was not watching continuously but here are my counts on some of the uncommon birds. This includes what I saw on my waterbird survey. Iceland gull- 1 adult Thayer's gull- 1 1st winter Lesser black-backed gull 17 (12 adults, 3 3rd year, and 2 1st year) Glaucous gull- 4 (1 adult, 3 1st/2nd year) Great black-backed gull- 300+ Of the common gulls, I think the ring-billed- herring gull ratio was about 15:1. the only Bonaparte's I saw were the 116 that passed by between 8:30 and 9:00. There were decent numbers of waterfowl moving through the day. there were lots of dabblers and good numbers of mergansers. I didn't see any more scoters or anything uncommon. There should be lots of gulls to look through at East 72nd. John Pogacnik 4765 Lockwood Road Perry, OH 44081 (440) 259-2751 ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]