Hello; I ran across three swans which look more like Trumpeter than Tundra Swans- 2 adults and one juvenile. They were in a private marsh area on the west side of CR 265. I drove east of Fremont on Rt. 6 towards Pickerel Creek WA. CR 265 is on the left off of Rt. 6 about 7 miles out of Fremont. Turn left onto CR 265 at Racoon Creek, which has a large sign with the creek's name on it. Drive down CR 265 about a quarter mile and the swans are on the left. There were no yellow markings at the base of the bill, but I know not all Tundra Swans have this marking. They seemed to have a larger black bills than Tundra's have. One had a green neck band with yellowish markings, which I couldn't read. All three seemed very large, bigger than most Tundra Swans I've seen earlier in the Fall. However, I've been looking at Tufted Titmice and juncos all winter, to my perception has been influenced...they seemed like dinosaurs! Plus, these swans were much closer to me than any I've spotted before. Any one know if the green neck band with yellowish letters/numbers is being put on Trumpeter, or on Tundra Swans? This would verify the ID. I'd appreciate you letting me know. Further down the road is another large and newly-created marsh with about 15 Swans on it, but they were too far away to ID. Definately not Mute Swans, though. Also in the area in and around Pickerel Creek WA: 2 N. Harriers 4 Bald Eagles 20 Mallards 40 Canada Geese 2 RT Hawks Thousands of Starlings(ugh!) 2 Great Blue Herons Visit the Wildlife-Friendly Yards Blog at: http://wildlifefriendlylawn.blogspot.com/ and look at the WW Crossbill Video in right margin. Robert ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]