A surprise visitor this morning to one of our black oil sunflower seed tube feeders--I saw a large black bird clinging to it precariously--yes, a fine male grackle in what looked like irridescent breeding plumage! It and another (possibly mate?) were later scrounging in the leaf litter, which is where I would expect to find them--except not on November 13. Good birding! Pam Unger The pine tree, the leopard, the Platte River, and ourselves--we are at risk together, or we are on our way to a sustainable world together. We are each other's destiny. --Mary Oliver ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]