Haven't seen any turduckens recently. Obviously this time of year the bird had to be a creagle as reported by Mr. Hinkle every year. In southwestern Ohio, you can see both variants of the creagle at Houston Woods state park. Both variants can be found on the sunny side of the roof of the lodge or on top of the large central chimney. They're usually there most of the year. Happy birding, Ed and Bev Neubauer Englewood, Ohio ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]