My first visit to this new (opened last Oct) preserve in Eaton Twp., Lorain Co. I was hoping for the reported vesper sparrow but couldn't find it. Tried hard to make one of the innumerable song sparrows into one, but no luck. I did find two grasshopper and one savannah sparrows and the dickcissel. Also many indigo buntings and goldfinches plus an eastern meadowlark not too long out of the nest - it had even less tail than an adult. Craig Caldwell Westlake ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]