Jen Brumfield just called to say she had found a duck at Lorain that looks good for Cinnamon Teal. These birds are tricky at this season but Jen's photos look convincing to me: http://www.jenbrumfield.com/?page_id=384 To find the spot at the Lorain mudflats, you can do a google map search for the Jackalope Restaurant / Spitzer Marina in Lorain -- and when you go there, park in the big parking lot for the Jackalope, go north through the orange snow fence, and walk maybe 500 feet north to where you're up on the dike and can see the three bodies of water in front of you out on the flats. Jen said that the bird in question was hanging around consistently with a small group of Blue-winged Teal (affording good comparisons); as you'll see in her photos, the Cinnamon has a noticeably larger bill and plainer face. Be sure to find the Blue-wings and look with them, because there are shovelers, Green-winged Teal, and various other ducks in the area. During the time that Jen was there, all of the ducks were moving around, so you may have to scan the area to find the Blue-wing flock; they may be out on open water or close to the phragmites. Needless to say, this western duck is rare in Ohio. Congratulations, Jen! Kenn Kaufman Oak Harbor, Ohio ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]