I checked a couple other sites in Ashtabula County and also got cave swallows at Ashtabula and Geneva. The swallows seemed to prefer large open grassy areas near the lake. Here are the totals: Conneaut Harbor 5 CAVE SWALLOWS (on the swimming beach) (found by Bob Krajeski) 1 CALIFORNIA GULL (!st cycle) 2 Lesser black-backed gulls 1 Surf scoter 1 Peregrine falcon 60 Snow buntings Lakeshore Park (Ashtabula) 2 CAVE SWALLOWS (near the shelter) 1 BRANT 4 Bald eagles 1 Peregrine falcon Walnut Beach (Ashtabula) 6 Snow buntings Geneva State Park 4 CAVE SWALLOWS (north of the marina) 1 barn swallow 6 COMMON REDPOLLS 21 Snow buntings Arcola Creek 1 Great egret John Pogacnik 4765 Lockwood Road Perry, OH 44081 (440) 259-2751 ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]