Thanks, Scott. Yes, it's a great book. I'm in awe of Larry Rosche & keep his books in my car year-round. I had trouble learning birds until 4-5 years ago when I started studying Larry's guidelines, hotspots, and tips. What surprised me was hearing the killdeer long after they've disappeared from the city areas I frequent, including large expanses of NASA Lewis Field, where they're ubiquitous spring thru fall - and gone after the abundant grasshoppers have laid their eggs and left us. To see them last week on the mudflats at ONWR, sucking on crustaceans & insects, felt right. But all this was just gut feeling from my meager experiences. Linda In a message dated 11/9/2010 8:19:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Friends, The Killdeer are still with us. The authoratative Birds of the Cleveland Region book lists Killdeer as "common to abundant" on the monthly distribution chart for that species through the 2nd third of November, then uncommon to occasional in occurrence until March when they become common/abundant once again. BOCR reflects data for the counties of Lake, Cuyahoga, Lorain, Medina, Summit, Portage, and Geauga. You can purchase it online at the Kirtland Bird Club (active in all seven of these counties, and beyond!) at http://www.kirtlandbirdclub.org/booksale.htm Scott ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]