A few suggestions about finding cave swallows. A nice blow from the SW could still bring in more, and maybe NE winds could keep some still present from moving out. The relatively warm weather will not necessarily concentrate them all on bodies of water especially, but that's where most of us look for them. One thing that doesn't get mentioned is that these are CAVE swallows, addicted to sheltered areas, especially roofed overhead, where they roost and nest. Decades ago they were found only in a few large caverns in the south, but since then they quickly spread into the countryside, and now are to be found seasonally in almost every culvert in Texas it seems. Many records here in the Great Lakes region have come from places like under roofs of lakeside picnic shelters, restrooms, etc., and from structures like bridges, piers, and the like---especially when weather requires them to take shelter. This has been noted by day, and is likely even more common by night. Ohio's only specimen came from a roofed front porch in Lakewood. When birds are not actually perched in such situations, they may be nearby, especially at dusk or in bad weather. It might help to consider them taking shelter like bats, crowding into sheltered niches shielded from above, so if none are flying, they might still be around, perching beneath shelters on beams and supports. This provides a potentially rewarding strategy to add to just watching for migrants passing offshore. Bill Whan Columbus ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]