This morning when I went to Alum Creek and Hoover Reservoirs, killdeer were present at both places. A lone turkey vulture was soaring over the tree line on the east side of Hoover Reservoir just above the dam. I thought I saw a northern rough-winged swallow next to the boat house behind the Hoover office but I couldn't get close enough to tell for sure. So if you're in the area, keep your eyes peeled for it. On October 30, I saw a brown thrasher at Lazelle Woods Park (Franklin County) at about 8:30 in the morning. I didn't think much of it at the time but I received the fall 2008 issue of the Cardinal the other day and noticed that the late date for that species that year was october 5 at Buck Creek. Al La Sala Columbus, OH ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]