Hello All, Is the Sabine Gull still at Metzer? If so where would I be most likely to see it? Also is the Black Headed Gull still at Lorain Harbor -- and again where at the harbor would I be most likely to see it? Thank you so much -- Susan Ruth Marengo From Northeast Cleveland Heights -- Just South of America's North Coast -----Original Message----- From: OHIO-BIRDS automatic digest system <[log in to unmask]> To: OHIO-BIRDS <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thu, Dec 2, 2010 12:03 am Subject: OHIO-BIRDS Digest - 30 Nov 2010 to 1 Dec 2010 (#2010-334) There are 6 messages totalling 448 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Tips for pulling Black-headed and Little Gulls 2. Black-headed gull at Lorain 3. OHIO-BIRDS Digest - 29 Nov 2010 to 30 Nov 2010 (#2010-333) 4. siskins 5. Please submit your fall 2010 sightings, photographs, and articles 6. {spam?} Killdeer Plains ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. ur thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. dditional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: ttp://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS end questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:05:43 +0000 rom: jen brumfield <[log in to unmask]> ubject: Tips for pulling Black-headed and Little Gulls Snowy greetings-=20 ith the excitement of big pushes of Bonaparte's into the region=2C finally= 2C comes the excitement of seeking rare Little Gulls and doubly-as-rare Bl= ck-headed Gull. The sheer spectacle of mass flocks of frenzying Bonaparte'= can be quite dizzying. These small gulls are highly active=2C constantly = n the move=2C and more tern-like than the "standard" Ring-billed and Herri= gs we see year-round. Bonies are highly social and form tight-knit feeding= lines and packs.=20 n days with WNW or NW winds=2C Bonaparte's=2C which are typically more of = deep-water feeding bird=2C will move into harbors and feed in lines and e= ongated wheels. For instance=2C they'll choose=2C say=2C the west breakwal= of Lorain Harbor to "run." The feeding flock will form a line parallel wi= h the breakwall=2C run it for several hundred feet=2C and individually bir= s will peel back and around to the end of the line=2C so that there's a co= stant line of birds in line and wheeling back around. Classic Bonaparte's = eeding strategy. Setting up your spotting scope on a part of this line wil= allow you to watch birds streaming through. Otherwise it's quite dizzying= to scan back and forth along a flock. Picking one general area of the feed= ng line to watch=2C and allowing the birds to filter through your view=2C = elps to concentrate on what birds are coming up next.=20 hould a Little Gull work through the line=2C you'll see NO white wedge on = he upperwing as in Bonaparte's. Instead: the jet-black-underwings of the a= ult winter bird=2C or the dusky underwings of a 2nd year bird=2C or the _t= ick_ black "M" of a first-year bird. Black-headed Gull is trickier since i= has the upperwing white wedge=2C and the black on the underwing doesn't e= tend fully throughout as it does on adult Little Gull. The black "flash" o= Black-headed resides on the underside of the outer primaries. Shadows on = he underwings of Bonaparte's Gulls still cannot meet this BLACK located st= ictly on the under-primaries of Black-headed. Then tie this into this the = lightly larger size (not always immediately evident) and different build a= d feeding style (Black-headed glides more and is slightly slower than Bona= arte's)=2C plus the addition=2C when seen well=2C of the red bill and rich= red legs/feet.=20 gain=2C on WEATHER. Oftentimes=2C this time of the year=2C the harsher the= weather the better for birding.=20 aterbirds make larger movements on days with WNW=2C NW winds. The ultimate= goal for many of these birds is to push east. Surely you'll see Red-breast= d Mergansers and gulls pushing west=2C in order to stage on Sandusky Bay= 2C for instance=2C but many of the birds that we see on the Cleveland fron= are eastbound=2C in general. These tough-weather days are PERFECT for pos= ing up at harbors. The winds often push mass groupings of gulls to areas w= th lighter wind/wave action. Thus=2C Bonaparte's on a calm day will feed a= mile off shore. In heavier weather=2C they'll move in=2C off breakwalls an= into harbors. Such is the case with jaegers and waterfowl.=20 ure=2C almost any day on the lake=2C no matter the weather=2C you're going= to witness some sort of movement. But there's a specific set of elements t= at tend to outline the bigger movement days. Getting familliar with where = irds stage=2C too=2C is key. Lorain and Huron Harbors=2C Avon Lake Powerpl= nt=2C Rocky River Park=2C Wendy Park in Cleveland=2C Headlands Beach/Fairp= rt Harbor=2C Conneaut... are a few of the main harbors/bluffs/coves where = here tends to be a massing of a wide diversity of species.=20 s far as the adult winter Black-headed sticking at Lorain... there's a fai= outlook that the Bonaparte's flock currently working the harbor will stic= for several more days. There's certainly turn-over. The good news is that= the Black-headed has been refound almost daily=2C AS has a leucistic Bonap= rte's Gull that was also part of the original flock that appeared on the 2= th... est of birding - jen en Brumfield=20 [log in to unmask] leveland=2C Ohio 30-701-6452 = ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. ur thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. dditional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: ttp://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=3DOHIO-BIRDS end questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 12:14:40 -0800 rom: Craig Caldwell <[log in to unmask]> ubject: Black-headed gull at Lorain The bird was present at 2:30 this afternoon.=A0 It was out near the lightho= se; =0Athe vantage point is the fenced-in gravel lot to the east of the pa= ed "hot =0Awaters" lot.=0A=0ACraig Caldwell=0AWestlake ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. ur thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. dditional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: ttp://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=3DOHIO-BIRDS end questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 17:57:00 -0500 rom: renkert <[log in to unmask]> ubject: Re: OHIO-BIRDS Digest - 29 Nov 2010 to 30 Nov 2010 (#2010-333) On Tuesday November 30th, my daughter (who is a wildlife biologist and irder and is visiting me) saw 8 wild turkeys in a yard just south of the ature Center in Shaker Heights at the corner of West Park and Southington. ----- Original Message ----- rom: "OHIO-BIRDS automatic digest system" <[log in to unmask]> o: <[log in to unmask]> ent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:01 AM ubject: OHIO-BIRDS Digest - 29 Nov 2010 to 30 Nov 2010 (#2010-333) There are 3 messages totalling 105 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. OHGV CBC Dec19 2. BLACK-HEADED GULL continues 3. Bald Eagle Cuyahoga county ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:31:54 -0500 From: Glenn Welch <[log in to unmask]> Subject: OHGV CBC Dec19 The Greenville CBC will be December 19. We need volunteers of all = experiences and will pair those with less experience with the old pros = of the count. For more information contact me at the either email = address or phone number. DCWC and Darke County Birders will cover the = participant's fee. Please join us for some fun and help count the birds = of Darke County. Bob Welch SQM Coordinator Southwest Scenic Rivers=20 Ohio Department of Natural Resources Division of Watercraft 1795 St Rt 571 W Greenville, OH 45331 [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] 937-968-3514 Hm 937-423-1596 Cell ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=3DOHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:05:04 +0000 From: jen brumfield <[log in to unmask]> Subject: BLACK-HEADED GULL continues Greetings -=20 Emil Bacik just called to report that the adult winter BLACK-HEADED GULL co= ntinues at Lorain Harbor as of noon today. The bird was in the river channe= l. At least 3=2C000 Bonaparte's Gulls are present.=20 Best of luck. It takes time to sort through the Bonaparte's for this well-m= arked but easily-missable species. cheersJen Jen Brumfield=20 [log in to unmask] Cleveland=2C Ohio 330-701-6452 = ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=3DOHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:31:07 -0500 From: JoAnn Kubicki <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Bald Eagle Cuyahoga county An adult bald eagle has been seen for the last week or so flying throughout Cleveland Metroparks Ohio & Erie Canal Reservation. Dates seen 11/14, 11/15, 11/17 and 11/27. Jo Ann Kubicki Information Specialist Cleveland Metroparks CanalWay Center 4524 East 49th Street Cuyahoga Hts, Ohio 44125 216-206-1000 ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. 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You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: ttp://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS end questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 21:29:39 -0500 rom: Andy Jones <[log in to unmask]> ubject: Please submit your fall 2010 sightings, photographs, and articles Hello Ohio birders: The snow is flying here in Cleveland, the major push of Bonaparte's ulls is underway along Lake Erie, and Pine Siskins are being spotted hroughout the state, telling us that autumn has come to an end and inter has arrived. 30 November marked the end of fall in terms of the way we keep track of ird records; fall is considered to run four months, from August 1st to ovember 30th. Please consider submitting your observations of Ohio birds from the fall eason to The Ohio Cardinal. The bulk of the issues are made up of ield observations from birders, and we are eager to find out about and eport on what you've been seeing. Even if you have reported sightings o the listserv, please provide us with a list of your most important ecords to ensure that they are cited in the journal. Please submit your reports, by e-mail or by postal mail, to the ollowing addresses: Andy Jones Department of Ornithology Cleveland Museum of Natural History 1 Wade Oval Drive - University Circle Cleveland, OH 44106 e-mail: [log in to unmask] A convenient form for submitting seasonal observations, and additional nformation is available here: http://www.ohiobirds.org/publications/cardinal/aboutcardinal.php Reports should be submitted by December 26th. Photographs and articles are also greatly appreciated - contact me for nformation on submission guidelines. We are particularly eager to eceive articles from southern and western Ohio, as they tend to be nderrepresented in the journal. THANK YOU!!! Andy - ndy Jones, Ph.D. illiam A. and Nancy R. Klamm Endowed Chair of Ornithology nd Head of Department of Ornithology epartment of Ornithology leveland Museum of Natural History Wade Oval Drive - University Circle leveland, OH 44106 ttp://www.cmnh.org/site/researchandcollections_Ornithology.aspx ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. ur thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. dditional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: ttp://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS end questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 22:53:57 -0500 rom: Noah Comet <[log in to unmask]> ubject: {spam?} Killdeer Plains My thanks to all of you who responded with tips about Killdeer Plains and hort Eared Owls! My first visit to this absolutely *amazing* place did not disappoint! I'll e going back there---soon. Despite the fact that there were many eople *killing eer* at Killdeer today, which made for rather skittish wildlife (and unctuated my otherwise serene wilderness experience with gunfire), I anaged to see some amazing birds, especially raptors, and secured three ifers, Tundra Swan, Northern Harrier, and yes(!), Short Eared Owl. All hat was missing (from my mental list of hoped-for birds) was Rough Legged awk. The Harriers were the dominant presence today, all over the wildlife rea---I sighted eleven, only one of which was a mature male. (I wasn't ble to distinguish the females from the juveniles.) I expected to be mpressed by their hover-hunting, but I was astounded to see how controlled heir flight was---that they "hit the brakes," as it were, so quickly, ransitioning from rapid forward flight to a dead standstill hover in a plit-second. A couple of Kestrels (so much larger than their diminutive ize, aren't they?) did a bit hover-hunting, too. There was nothing doing (to my inexperienced eyes anyway) in the Owl Pines; erhaps it's still a bit early in the season for that area? On a field off of 294 just east of Harpster, I spotted three Bald Eagles, wo juveniles and one adult. I've seen many Baldies, but always either in light or in trees, and always near a body of water; seeing them on the round in the middle of a barren field like this struck me as unusual. I arrived in the park before dawn and found no Short Eared Owls (neither at he Sportsman's Center nor on Washburn Rd, where they'd recently been ighted); for that treat, I had to wait until dusk, as several listmembers uggested. I staked out the Sportsman's Center from about 4:15 to 4:40, but inally decided to drive around the park---there were several hunters still ctive near the Center, and I feared that would mean that this location despite its reputation for SEOs) was a wash; I ended up seeing two owls oursing the fields on the north side of 71 just east of 108 at about 4:45. hey fluttered about quite close to the road allowing for some very good ooks. At one point a Harrier engaged one of the owls in aerial combat and hen fled the scene. One of my most memorable birding experiences, to be ure! Overcast skies and moderate snow made for less than ideal photography onditions (even in mid-afternoon light, to say nothing of dusk), but I did anage to document the most exciting birds of the day---I've posted some ics here: http://ncomet.mezoka.com/index.html (Forgive the grain in the some of the images; I really had to boost the ISO n order to keep an acceptable shutter speed.) Best, oah ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. ur thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. dditional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. 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