As a birder/hunter/trapper/fisherman, I don't understand the animosity between birders and hunters. Hunters have paid the bill so to say in regards to conservation. The wildlife areas that we enjoy were purchased with hunting and fishing license revenue. No sales tax, income tax or tax levies have been used to fund ODW. So with that being said, is it time for birders and other outdoor enthusiast to step up to the plate? How about thanking a hunter and then making a donation to ODW. As far as birding goes, I had a short-eared owl and seven harriers at Big Island Sunday. ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]