This morning at 72nd Street in Cleveland, I found one second-cycle Glaucous Gull among the thousands of Ring-billeds, hundreds of Herrings, and dozens of Great Black-backed Gulls. In addition, from 11:00 - 11:30 a.m I observed the Larus sp. in the photos linked below. By overall coloration I believe it's a first-cycle bird, with pink legs and and a mostly black, stout bill. I observed it in several postures, and the photos are fairly representative. Its head was well rounded, in contrast to the Glaucous I'd been looking at earlier, and it had a chesty appearance. Larger than the nearby Ring-billed and with a more substantial build. Similar if maybe a bit smaller than Herring. No photos in flight, but when it did take off a couple of times, its wingtips and tail were a fairly uniform grayish oatmeal color. Tail coverts appeared intricately streaked. Any help would be appreciated. http://flic.kr/p/9aFv4k http://flic.kr/p/9aJDm7 http://flic.kr/p/9aJDs9 Bird well, Paul -- Paul Dubuc, Dayton, OH at sign beween pauldubuc and gmail dot com _____________________________________ "The moment a little boy is concerned with which is a jay and which is a sparrow, he can no longer see the birds or hear them sing." -- Eric Berne ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]