Some folks have written to ask where Melvin is; my apologies for not pinpointing it. Old DeLorme atlas 76:A3, or look it up in the gazetteer of the new one. It's about 6 mi east of downtown Wilmington on US 22, Clinton County. The town is just a flyspeck, dominated even from a distance by huge grain elevators and buildings and equipment associated with active quarrying. The water is visible to the north, if you crane your neck, from 22. A good vantage point is a disused low green house-style building, the last along the road as you head east, which has a parking lot to the east and a good view. Don't slam vehicle doors, as this may spook the birds. Rob Thorn and the Reiners also reported big Canada goose flocks in quarry sites yesterday, all with interesting companions. I also forgot to mention that in that same issue of the Cardinal with the ID-ready goose-head photos is an excellent article, "Birdin' the Pits," by Jay Stenger, about some of the unique qualities of these and related exotic habitats created by quarrying, gravel mining, and highway construction. Jay points out these can be of special interest in the warm months, too. Bill Whan Columbus ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]