Greetings! Well, after a few confirmations, :-D I have determined that I have at least on female, one indeterminant...prob. a nonbreeding male. Males have been hard for me to determine, but I think I have at least one, the bill is different, and the color is just...WOW! Also went to Lawrence woods,just outside of Kenton. Nothing special there, but a lot of wind. However on the wildflower front, the dutchman's breeches are starting to pop up. I had one that was in a protected area microclimate and was putting on a full show. I am heading to Black Mtn in Kentucky this weekend for forest floor photography, have any in southern Ohio seen anything in the Ky birding reports for that area. I am hoping for some warbler action while there. Thanks in advance. See you out there, Steve J. (Aka sjlarue) ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]