We are the couple you met at Grand Lake. Sorry we didn't give Jill, We are the couple you met at Grand Lake. Sorry we didn't give you more details. We saw the longspurs mostly on Now Rd & on Manley Rd. We have discovered that Now Rd. is not even listed in the old editions of the DeLORME but it is in the new editions. If you take SR 29 west out of Celina to SR 118, then go north to Mud Pike Rd and turn left, Now Rd should be the 1st road to the right. It runs north/south from Mud Pike Rd to Rockford West Rd. and lies west of Burkettsville St. Henry Rd. Most of the acitivity that we saw on this road was north of SR 707. Manley Rd is an east/west road (44C1 & C2, DeLORME old edition) that runs between Erastus-Durbin Rd & Grauberger Rd. Here, most of the longspurs were toward the east end of the road. We enjoyed talking to you today; it was good to put a face to a name we see often on Ohio-birds. Tim & Laura Dornan Louisville, east of Canton ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]