Hi all, Unless there have been changes since I worked at Crane Creek, American crows are uncommon-rare breeders out there. It was pretty uncommon to see crows in the breeding season in and around the Crane Creek. I am still seeing a few crows moving along the lake out my way here in Lake County. All have been Americans, thus far. John Pogacnik ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Bowman" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] FISH CROW - Magee Marsh > Just a cautionary note: > > If it were later in the season, the call might not be diagnostic. > Fledge-year American crows make a call that is indistinguishable (or > nearly > so) from that of the Fish Crow. However, that only lasts a few months - > after that, and before that as well - the call is generally diagnostic. > Size helps, but there is variation in size of American crows, as well. > So, > a combination of size and call, and some other minor distinguishing marks > that I'm not good enough to discern, make the id firm. > > In regard to American crows, I'm seeing them carrying food already, so > they > do have nestlings, at least. I'm not sure how long crows stay in the > nest. > Smaller birds usually range from 8 to 10 days. Larger ones presumable > take > longer to fledge. Can anyone with some expertise shed some light on this? > What would be the time frame that immature American crows might be > expected > to sound like Fish Crows? > > Margaret Bowman > Licking Co., OH > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lindway Jim" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 9:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] FISH CROW - Magee Marsh > > >> The Fish Crow was seen and confirmed on Saturday 5-21 as well. >> >> Jim Lindway >> Brecksville >> >> --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Ken Beers <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> From: Ken Beers <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: [Ohio-birds] FISH CROW - Magee Marsh >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 5:05 PM >> >> Today around noon I was checking out the beach and brushy areas west of >> the >> west end of the parking lot at the Magee Marsh boardwalk when I thought I >> heard a single call of a Fish Crow. >> >> Then, at 12:15 I was standing at the "loop" at the extreme west end of >> the >> parking lot and the Fish Crow flew directly overhead at a height of about >> 30 >> feet, calling as it flew. It called several times as it flew towards me >> and >> overhead, and it continued west along the beach and out of sight. >> >> This was a single crow, and appeared rather small in size. >> >> I remained in the vicinity for about 45 minutes as I ate lunch, and I did >> not hear or see it again. >> >> The call was unmistakable! >> >> I hope someone will be able to relocate this bird so it can be >> appropriately >> documented! >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. >> Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. >> Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at >> www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. >> >> You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: >> http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS >> Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. >> Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. >> Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at >> www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. >> >> You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: >> http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS >> Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] >> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. > Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. > Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at > www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. > > You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: > http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS > Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]