I was able to get to Sims Park in Euclid today (12/8) from 4:10 to 4:40pm with 14mph ssw winds 39 degrees. There were 20 scoters, that looked like to me 3 White-winged Scoters, 3 Black Scoters (females) and 14 Surf Scoters, 1 Horned Grebe and about 25 Common Golden eye. I have to admit that other people go there and see many more White-winged Scoters than I do as 10 were reported to ebird yesterday. I could be off a white-winged or two but can't figure out the difference. Recent pictures included below Also, I have not been able to find any Snow Buntings at Bluestone Bus Park the last few weeks even though I haven't spent much time there. Nancy Anderson Richmond Hts, OH http://www.flickr.com/photos/nancy_a/ ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]