Thank you to everyone who replied to my eBird questions. While eBird clearly is not the perfect solution for mapping out a birding trip, it is possible to wrangle enough information out of it to be somewhat helpful in planning. Most of the suggestions have been posted to the list, but here's one I sort of figured out myself... The list of GPS coordinates can be made to work for those without GPS devices by mapping them to ordinary Google maps. I wasn't able to get google maps to recognize the coordinates directly, but found this website that will convert coordinates to a google map: http://boulter.com/gps/ Copy and paste in your coordinates from the eBird list. Click the google map link directly below the small map window to jump to the full map. I guess you could add these locations one-by-one to your own personal google map for the purpose of mapping a birding outing. The drawback of the eBird hotspot GPS list is you have to know the names of the places you are going. Lesser known hotspots would be completely missed. I think public google maps of birding locations could be the perfect solution to what I'm after. For instance, here's one I made a few years ago for birding by car in CVNP. It may not be complete or up to date, but you get the idea. http://g.co/maps/jm673 It would be great if local birding groups would develop public maps such as these for their home turf. Does anyone know if this is being done? All in all, an informative discussion. Thanks to all who took the time to respond. Bird well, Karen Gray ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]