Bill, The following is information about another Passenger Pigeon specimen. Nancy has contacted me concerning your work on Passenger Pigeons. A year or so ago Dr. David Klarer, limnologist with the Ohio Division of Wildlife, Old Woman Creek State Nature Preserve, Huron, Ohio asked me to look at an immature specimen of what he suspected was a Passenger Pigeon. I agreed with his suspicions, but brought the specimen to the Cleveland Museum of Natural History for confirmation which they did. I returned the specimen to the Visitor Center at the Nature Preserve, and as far as I know the specimen is still there. Cheers, Charles E. Herdendorf, Professor Emeritus School of Earth Sciences, The Ohio State University Nancy Howell The Cleveland Museum of Natural History 1 Wade Oval Dr., University Circle Cleveland, OH 44106-1767 [log in to unmask] phone 216.231.4600 ext. 3225 education fax 216.231.9960 ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]