Thanks to Dave and Bruce for their comments/observations regarding my earlier post on the swans at Watermark Quarry. Dave....I definitely misheard you in the field yesterday as to which way you were leaning on these swans and I apologize for misrepresenting your thinking regarding the id of these swans. I think Bruce's comment about conclusions commonly drawn some 10 years earlier were interesting too. I guess for me, I can't say 100% for sure which these were. (Glad I put a question mark on my original post :-) ) But after looking at some of my photos closer the six swans that were alike did seem to have a pointed border or v shape on top of their heads where the black bill area meets the white head area. My Sibley's claims that would indicate a Trumpeter. With that in mind I'm probably leaning more towards the Trumpeters. Thanks for everyone's input. Good Birding, Kim kimgraham.zenfolio.com ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]